(on "My Million Dollar Invention.") In Germany, some credit Jatho with making the first airplane flight, although sources differ whether his aircraft was controlled. Wrong. Seven down. As soon as I turned the rudder and drove one propeller faster than the other the machine turned a bend and flew north with the wind." Information about your device and internet connection, including your IP address, Browsing and search activity while using Verizon Media websites and apps. Ten or twelve years old? As you claim a relationship to Glenn Curtiss, I will be gentle in my comments, hopefully to nudge you to reconsider some of your unsubstantiated comments. But that's another story. But it's hard to say. Harnworth slid about a hundred feet before he stopped." In the 1927 Collier's interview, Daniels never mentions taking a picture, but this same interview is used over and again by Wright historians to describe the first "flights"--including David McCullough. I too would like to see a movie version that would expose all the credible evidence that has been ignored regarding Mr. Whitehead. Who else was there? He then goes on to give details which we can compare to the infamous August 18, 1901 article. It is full of errors and is not a record of anything. Didn't you see or hear of all the other "supposed" flights? You can change your choices at any time by visiting Your Privacy Controls. Rather than respond to his sincere questions, she attacks him personally, just as she attacks the Wright brothers and the Smithsonian, and Gibbs-Smith, and Judges Hand and Hazel, and Griffith Brewer, and William Hammer, and Amos Root, and Stanley Beach, and 39 of the world's leading aviation history experts, and Dr. Crouch and NAHA... what a disgrace. We also get that, as you yourself stated, you "pretty much" believe that everything the Wrights "wrote, said or did was part of some brilliant effort to claim for themselves sole credit for every advance in aviation that led to powered flight and deny such credit to others". Except added to the Wright "talking points" is this new, absolutely ridiculous statement:
Was it a glider? Oh, the same day. Nine down. Please post the exact quote stating that the Wrights told Daniels he took the photo, and where it can be found. If you ask the Brazilians who fathered modern aviation, they will tell you a completely different story. Oh wait, wait, wait.. "In 1902, I was present on another occasion, this time in Bridgeport, Connecticut, when Mr. Whitehead succeeded in flying his machine, propelled by a motor, approximately four or five feet off the ground." He testified for the Government in the Montgomery case, but never sought to publicly rebuke Curtiss, Herring or Zahm. What "illustrious competition"? They tell the exact truth and are conscientious, so that I credit fully any statement which they make." (There was only one attempt on the 14th.). Well, what is your background that would allow anyone to believe you? NC pilot , you are scrambling to correct your own witnesses? I have yet to ever read what your background is in terms of qualifications, such as education and work history, though I thought I read once you took some art classes. What associates? Five down. This interview is untrustworthy, period. They patented dynamic flight control consisting of aerodynamic devices to control an aircraft in pitch, roll and yaw. His comment reminded me once again that our school-taught history in the US has left out many important facts and much information about the world around us. Anyone can read all of their claims in the uncounted books written about them, that repeat their claims. A nice guy who didn't want to contradict the Wrights. Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Sun, 08/02/2015 - 19:01, Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Sat, 08/01/2015 - 17:27, Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Sat, 08/01/2015 - 17:46, Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Sat, 08/01/2015 - 17:30, Submitted by Senior Aviator on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 18:26, Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 18:24, Submitted by Cummings on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 11:14, Submitted by NC Pilot on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 16:12, Submitted by Airman on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 12:34, Submitted by Cummings on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 11:07, Submitted by NC Pilot on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 15:50, Submitted by Cummings on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 09:25, Submitted by NC Pilot on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 10:56, Submitted by NC Pilot on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 06:44, Submitted by Cummings on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:18, Submitted by Airman on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 12:07, Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:25, Submitted by Carroll F. Gray on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 17:55, Submitted by Cummings on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 16:04, Submitted by Senior Aviator on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 17:48, Submitted by Cummings on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 14:14, Submitted by Airman on Thu, 07/30/2015 - 16:41, Fascinating topic, facinating book. "Gustave Whitehead: First in Flight" is available on Amazon in print and as an eBook here. I don't blame you for believing the "blather" coming out of the Smithsonian and repeated by others claiming to be "experts" about these points in early aviation history. Thirty two or thirty three years ago. How it began, who was involved, how the "witness statements" were obtained as well as the integrity and scholarship of those involved. Brinchman, actually has a vested interest in this book and story, as her father, Major William J. O’Dwyer discovered in 1963 photographs of a Whitehead aeroplane taken on the grounds of the Brooklawn Country Club Fairway, on the border of Fairfield and Bridgeport, Connecticut. Wing covering: "japanese silk". He extracted himself from business and settled into a comfortable, if often painful retirement, passing up an endless parade of opportunities for self aggrandizement and profit. Wrong, Motor: "four cylinder-two cycle". Susan, In my opinion, your book is 400 pages of excuses, more excuses, conspiracy theories, scapegoating, hearsay, incomplete information and misinformation topped with a heaping helping of hopeless anti-Wright bias. Your obvious hatred, bias and shame blinds you from the truth. To the best of my "childhood" recollection. Junius Harworth was in the plane at the time. He certainly had the standing and power to do so. When? Believing that the witnesses are attempting to tell the truth is adequate. In 1963, reserve U.S. Air Force major William O’Dwyer researched Whitehead and because convinced that he did fly; his research contributed to Stella Randolph’s 1966 book, The Story of Gustave Whitehead, Before the Wrights Flew. One down... This occurred when? The author presents stunning new discoveries, solidifying the case for recognition of Gustave Whitehead as the “True Inventor of the Airplane” and “First in Powered Flight.” Ironically, it comes at a time when a book by David McCullough, The Wright Brothers (Simon & Shuster), is #1 on the New York Times Bestseller’s list. He is mistaken that the track was taken to "the top of the highest hill" as photographic evidence shows the track placed near the bottom of the hill rather than the top. "The Wrights got their machine out of its shed that morning, and we helped them roll it up to the top of the highest hill, on a monorail. Not one cent, even though the Wright Company had a personal claim against him in addition to his company. Naturally, this was enormously unpopular, especially in the press and among those who did not understand the wide interpretation the courts granted the patent. It has always been the world against the Wrights. Which is more important to you, attacking Orville Wright, or defending Glenn H. Curtiss ? You believe their associates who helped them stomp out the illustrious competition weren't lying, and the Smithsonian curators weren't and aren't lying (though their proclivity to making up history and denying the contract existed has also been proven, in History by Contract and in a growing number of other publications through to this date). How long was this flight? A French syndicate forfeited 25,000 francs which allowed them to continue to market their invention to governments in a effort to avoid prolonged and expensive patent suits. Did this one have a control system? Curtiss erred in associating with Augustus Herring and Albert Zahm. Really? After all, we are far too trusting of "experts", not taking into consideration their motivations. Eleven down. Joseph Ratzanberger: "I recall the incident very well because I was one of several boys who clung to the back of the plane as it rose into the air and carried us off our feet." }
Technical details such as the wheels and the wires are obviously incorrect. Firing the boiler on a one minute or less flight!!! Ten or twelve feet perhaps? When the ship had reached a height of about forty or fifty feet I began to wonder how much higher it would go. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You may not have actually read Gustave Whitehead: First in Flight , or at least, read it carefully. Wilbur's brilliant testimony eviscerated the testimonies of Zahm and Curtiss. Glenn Curtiss made a great fortune, but it was because he was a genius at business as well as invention. Whether it is the fault of the interviewer or Mr. Daniels does not matter. Again, there is absolutely no reason to take anything you say seriously. He wasn't even given the picture until years later. Who else was there? I lived there and met and heard the witnesses, a number of them, and met the researchers, interacting with them closely, for years. Disgraceful! Brazilians fail to recognize the legitimacy of the Wright Brothers’ flight because they claim the Wright Flyer took off from a rail and, then later used a catapult (or, at the very least, used an incline to takeoff). I feel it is necessary to point out these errors in my reply below. Comments like how Wright associates "helped them stomp out the illustrious competition" are not only untrue, but amazingly so. Mr. Gray, It's obvious you haven't read the whole Daniels interview. The legal necessity to defend the Wright patent required them to prosecute all those attempting to commercialize their invention. Whitehead’s claims were not taken seriously until 1935, when two journalists wrote an article for Popular Aviation. You can give any number of assumptions why I care not to answer you, but number one on the list should be the bias you show so obviously and that writers today are beginning to see through. As for your arguments, I see nothing that indicates you are able to digest anything other than the history that the Wrights manufactured for the world at large, particularly Orville.